Q&A: Binoche and Fiennes on reuniting for ‘The Return’ and fighting for meaningful movies


Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche became friends while playing lovers in “Wuthering Heights.” A few years later, they would share the screen again in Anthony Minghella’s “The English Patient,” that ancient epic that might jerk them the entire technique to the Oscars.

They’ve saved in contact within the years since, fused by means of the ones early reports and their awe for one every other’s minds and processes. There have been dinners and contact yelps and journeys to catch one every other at the level. Binoche went to look him in “Macbeth.” He went to look her in “Antigone.”

However they hadn’t controlled to paintings in combination once more till now. And, suitable for the past, the tale is an epic: the reunion of Odysseus and Penelope.

“We’re very, very, very good friends,” Fiennes stated. “There’s a trust, there’s a bond, there’s a respect. There’s the love of friends and we celebrate each other’s work.”

“The Return,” in theaters Friday, has been a zeal venture for director and co-writer Uberto Pasolini, who labored on it off and on for some 30 years (longer than Odysseus’ complete walk, he famous).

“I thought I was too old,” Fiennes said. “He said, ‘No, no, no, no, you’re there. This is your last year.’”

Binoche and Fiennes spoke to The Associated Press about the enduring appeal of Homer’s story, their process and the value of fighting for provocative cinema. Remarks have been edited for clarity and brevity.

FIENNES: I’ve been fascinated by Odysseus since I was a young boy and my mother read me the Greek myths. I think it’s something about coming home and having the courage and the sort of sense of destiny to take what is yours, to clarify what you have. There are great symbols at work in this piece.

Uberto had shared this with me for some time and we got to the point of, well, when are we going to do this? And who should play Penelope? And I said, “It must be Juliette Binoche.” And he said, “Don’t you think it should be Juliette Binoche?” And I said, “That’s just what I said. Uberto, it has to be Juliette Binoche.”

BINOCHE: On another interview, he didn’t want to say that he chose me. And I said, “Why don’t you say it?” So now he’s saying that three times. I’m so happy.

FIENNES: It wasn’t long before Juliette Binoche was the only person on the planet who could play Penelope.

BINOCHE: I didn’t ask that much.

FIENNES: I’m saying that. You can’t say that. I can.

BINOCHE: You prepared more than I did. Ralph was really training like crazy for it. As for me, you want to be present and allow truth in the moment and make these figures, these big myths, these archetypes real. Uberto was quite controlling because he wanted to succeed so much with this film, he wanted it to be so close to his dream. We had to relax him in a way so we would have space to engage in this acting moment between us. We wanted to give something special to the film so people would experience as a spectator something ancient and yet very truthful and modern.

FIENNES: We felt strongly that once we were going to do it, we were on this shared road. You have the baggage of these two archetypes, symbols that are heightened, mythical. Our job is to make them human. We felt the pressure of that all the time and we were hungry to do it and wanted it. It was a conversation: Please don’t over-define every second of how you’re going to shoot this because we will get to a place where our combined energies will hopefully send you messages about how you want to shoot it.

FIENNES: The industry is challenged. And I know for a fact that the independent film finance world is very challenged. I think I’m a bit of a dinosaur. The days of the independent film that was going to be in cinemas, I think they may be past. The hunger to go to the cinema is something that might be dwindling, and we are always grateful when we hear about films where people have left their homes for the cinema experience.

So that begs the question about what is the cinema experience? Everything is changing and shifting. But there are determined writers, producers, actors, directors who believe in making provocative adult dramas. I read about this film, “The Brutalist.” I’m dying to see it. It sounds extraordinary. It sounds like exactly what I’m trying to describe. A brave filmmaker who is determined to go out there and push the boundaries with a piece of work. There are those people who are determined to keep giving us this expression in cinema. But it’s very tough.

BINOCHE: As an target market, it’s a must to practice what remains in you. As a result of, after all, you’re getting to have a gorgeous occasion hour you’re looking at and pondering, wow, you’re doing this and that and this colour and this presen and the enhancing is thrilling however on the finish of the life, what do you carry with you? What remains in you? I believe that’s the important thing query as a result of another way you spent hours and hours of looking at issues and also you don’t take into consideration it the then life or the then pace. It’s ridiculous, for my part, as it must nourish one thing for your date. I consider that an artwork mode can exchange your date. And we’re doing it for that function.


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